How do you actually become a two Pizza team?

Letting go

Spotify's famous video about Squad (team design) and how they work.

So how many pizzas?

The Ringelmann Effect

1. Priorities bounce around

2. It’s hard to know who is working on what

3. The team is unsure what its purpose is.

“If you want to build a ship, don’t drum up people to collect wood and don’t assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea. “ — Antoine de Saint-Exupery

4. Ceremonies become ceremonial, not useful.

Then velocity slows down.

The common objection. “But we don’t have enough XYZ senior roles?”

  • I can teach it
  • I can do it
  • I know about it.

So when do you crack one team in half?

  • Someone to build it (usually an engineer)
  • Someone to design it (usually a product designer)
  • And someone to prioritize the work, and fill other gaps (usually a product manager)

Your second team

  • What are the biggest problems, stopping us reaching our goals, that we face?
  • What jobs are our users hiring us to do for them? (JTBD)
  • Which of the startup pirate metrics do we care most about right now?
  • Does the product we make have a clear line down the middle perhaps (mobile vs web)
  • Even, as Valve might have us all believe, what do our teams actually want to work on?

Moving to two teams

  1. Create the teams.
  2. Put people in those teams.
  3. Give those teams clear objectives,
  4. give them some space to focus,
  5. and get out of their way.




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